May 5, 2016
One of the pivotal events of the early uprising was on April 29, 2011 - the Friday "protest" to "break the siege" of Deraa, which was ambushed out of nowhere at the military housing complex in Saida. Its said many were shot and perhaps "hundreds" were arrested, with some 20-51 allegedly taken by military intelligence, tortured, killed, and handed back to their families as a warning.
By far the most famous of these was 13-year-old Hamza Al-Khatib, whose story I'm reconsidering along with the events of the day they say he was arrested, HERE. But he wasn't the only one. The collective death toll seems to be around 50 at least (still tallying and comparing sources - see table of victims at ACLOS, ), with at least 30 allegedly arrested by security forces before they died.
Although activists claim half or more of this killing was done in secret detention weeks later, the whole mass of death is branded as a singular Saida massacre. This might be more accurate than they let on. My working theory is all these people were killed and tortured/mutilated on April 29, during the "protest" - they were in this sad state before the government ever had a chance to "arrest" their unidentified bodies following the clashes.
In support of this, I've found all victims that are visible after their hand-back (nine total, so far) display advanced decay. It seems like only some day's worth in the elements, but it also seems to be refrigerator decay, different, slower, and running probably exactly the whole time since April 29.
In most cases, the opposition's activists are clear the victims were held for a while, made to suffer, and killed only at the end, shortly before the bodies were returned. So in that widely-accepted narrative, the stuff that looks like decay must be some kind of recent and bizarre abuse. There are a few manifestations of it, but the main element is what they would have to call the green torso torture. It could look like some kind of decay of the fluids inside the body, especially near the site of an injury. But it' implicitly, to them, a torture that remains totally unexplained. Also, as explained below, the further out from April 29. the more vicious they got with it.
First, one body returned same-day (April 29), at least 5 on May 16, and none in between. None of these early returns has video or visuals to consider. Of those that do, let's start with the two youngest victims, who have the honor of "Caesar" leaking their morgue photos for comparison, in order of return.
Hamza Ali Al-Khatib, 13. VDC notes: "...his body was giving to his family in 24/5/2011, The body shows excessive torture marks and several shot wounds, the also cut off his genitals."May video, (bottom frames) decay morgue photos, (upper left) - body #23 (in Eastern Arabic numerals)
25 days since 29 April
(or perhaps 22 days - The official story has order to return signed 21-5.)
Injuries: general beating, 3 shots - 1 in chest, 2 through the arms and into the sides - maybe facial injury (bridge of nose) - castration/penis severed credibly reported (but officially denied). Dark face in upper left is dirt/blood/unclear. Later washed off.
Decay: Bullet hole in chest (white circle) was red, turns black, is called a burn - green patches (circled in green): between chest wound and right shoulder, lower abdomen next to groin injury. Upper green at least not there in upper left. Face darkening, maybe a bit green. Likely mild bloating (chest and chin seem closer together later) "Abu Hamza Al-Doumani" tries to explain Hamza's weight gain and/or blaoting as fluid torture - 10-12 liters poured in his mouth, making his body swell.This is ridiculous, and doesn't explain the green patches.
VDC notes: returned to the town in 6/8/2011 in a wooden box with distorted body, and organs
video, morgue photos,
body #12 (in both Eastern and Western Arabic numerals)
40 days since 29/4
Injuries: shot in the left knee, right arm, larger hip wound, said genitals bludgeoned, cheek torn wide open and teeth smashed out, at leastDecay: feet very yellow, upper torso pretty deep green, face and hip wound dark brown (video, low resolution, right). At the time of the morgue photo (left), color seems natural, freshly dead. Again, the green stuff is time-release, or what?
In both cases, the compared images are clear some days at least passed in between. Or, those who insist ... if they got the time-delayed green stuff into Hamza, why not get even more into the kid they held onto and tortured for longer? Right? And maybe it's the same story with these others, where we only have the later image. They could have been green even in their morgue photos, for all we know. Precedent says otherwise, but ...
we can see at least 7 others allow for a solid sampling ... in order of reported handing back, 19 May up to 4 July.
Mohammad Hasan al-Zubi, age 70. From Msaifra, married w/10 ch, National Number خ9 Notes: "A martyr from the Sayda massacre, he was injured in the neck by a bullet during a demonstration on 4/29/2011 and was detained and tortured, his mutilated corpse was returned on 5/19/2011." cause of death: shooting
Video title: Cham - Horan - Al-Musayfirah - Martyr Mohammed Al Zoubi 19-5 (May 19)
20 days since 29-4
body #28 (Eastern Arabic numerals)
Injuries: left eye seems gouged-out (covered) - mouth smashed, slices and other abuse to the legs and maybe groin, at least.
Decay: minimal - much is pink/livid, but greenish patches on torso, eyes and face barely starting to darken - would look worse in 5 days or so.
Husam Ahmad Taha al-Zubi 17
3rd youngest of 20 tortured detainees, per Amnesty. VDC notes: "One of the martyrs in Saida massacre where he was shot on 29-4-2011 and the bullet entered from his waist and was out from his shoulder. He was arrested and his body was handed over on 05.21.2011.
22 days since 29-4
Body #10 in W. Arabic? (not very clear)
Injuries: an entry wound on right side, exit at left shoulder, possibly unclear skull damage.
Decay: green color all through torso, in the neck, and especially the lower belly opposite entry wound. Related wound: unclear - possibly groin.
Mahmoud Ahmad Abdulrahman (al-Zoubi), 73: Amnesty report: he was in a van with 20 others, tried to run, was arrested. VDC notes: from Mseifra, Saida Massacre... his body was delivered on 23-5-2011 - National Number خ121 . Video title: Tortured martyr Mahmoud Abdulrahman Al Zoubi of Al-Musayfirah 23/5/2011
24 days sine 29-4
body # unclear at the moment
Injuries: shots/holes in right knee, serious left hand abrasion, general marks, small cuts or stabs in top of head, possibly fatal.
Decay: minimal sign - torso is a bit gray/neutral, but not healthy - pink is being overtaken by green - would look worse in 5 days
Mohammad Husain Shihada al-Zubi, 39 from Msaifra, Married with 5 children, degree in Sharia law, his body was handed over on 26-5-2011.
body #4 in Western Arabic
Decay: green color all through torso, at shoulder, worse in lower abdomen, in legs, no other serious marks - wounds may be in the groin and on the back - possible slight bloating - face slightly dark
Basher Abdulrahman Abdulrazaq (al-Zoubi) 37
National Number خ102 Married with 4 children, from Msaifra, Employee of the Department of Water. his body was handed over on 26-5-2011 - date of death: 5-21
no body number seen
In juries: major abuse to and huge hole poked in back, green suggests lower torso or groin injury in the front torso, small (bullet?) hole in lower throat, at least.
green color and bad texture near wounds, noted by examiner in video - stiffness of deeply chilled, almost frozen tissue, is not noted. The decay would move much slower than estimated, and the time since death would be much longer.
Nazer Jabr (Mohammed? al-Zoubi? Or just Jabr?) from Msaifra, returned June 7
body #22 (E. Arabic)
Injuries: unclear - apparently in the abdomen and the neck at least
decay: massively green torso, dark infected veins, strange patch of yellow in the center - gray-green decay in neck
Mohamad Al-Elewi Al-Kalash from Maaraba. Date 2011-07-04
65 days since 29-4
Injuries: cut to neck, same-sized cut to chest, eye missing?
Decay: Advanced. Body is darkening, green yielding to brown-black, face is already black.
9 for 9, the victims display the green torture, especially at the site of known wounds - not the usual kind with darker black germs prevailing, and with bloating, or maggots for that matter. Apparently the cold keeps the digestive tract germs down, but those inside the wounds and invested in the juicy organs carried on their green-tinted work, slowly but surely.
Or ... seriously, is there anyone who can look at this and still push for the activist story/implication here?